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dipesh's picture

While a new law was accomplished that allows police to break into every house, install a trojan horse on our computer-systems and video-cams in our rooms to secret monitor us, others are on there way to ban internet-games they don't like or to just shut down wikipedia cause they can;

Politician Forces German Wikipedia Off the Net

A rather unknown guy was able to do so with the permission of a court+law and without allowing wikipedia.de to provide a statement / alternate view before. That is the real scandal since it demonstrates the new direction of our neoliberal development and it shows that the last kind of protection we had, the law, is finally gone and/or fails to do it's work.

No news for those who where able to enjoy the new terror-laws at the G8 Summit 2007 or who did fall into the terror-trap like some families. But that this is valid now for even such cases does set new levels. Huston, we have a huge problem.

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tstaerk's picture

liberal

Hm, either you are liberal or you want MORE laws (yes, the US connotations or 'liberal' are different from ours). So, if you criticize the Bundestrojaner (I prefer calling it tax-paid voyeurism), you want a "liberalization".

So, I would not call our politics liberal, not even neo-liberal.

theriddle's picture

Even if some over-simplification is used...

... it still sucks.

dipesh's picture

yes

Sometimes it helps to touch multiple topics to connect them together for drawing a bigger picture. For sure it was not the first time since wikipedia.de was once shut down cause of the "tron case". Anyway, it does match very well into the global, US and Europe, development we had last few years and which got topped here by the newest policestate-law passed some days ago. We will see if once more our highest court will stop it and renders my fear related to the non-working laws at least partly invalid. I really hope so.

rabauke's picture

politics and buzzwords

You forgot to mention that the guy who did use the law to "protect" himself against wrong allegations (which they aren't) is by no means neoliberal but from the far left, i.e. was a member of the Socialist Unity Party of East-Germany, which after Germany's re-union renamed themselves to PDS (which he is still a member of, even though now they are called "Die Linke" [the Left]) and still has lots of members which collaborated/worked for the Eastern German socialist/communist/totalitarian party/system/dictatorship. He himself was part of the Stasi, the secret service that spied on their own East-German people, tortured in their prisons and even tried to kill those that fled to West-Germany.

So its not a neoliberal who abuses the law, but one of those that claim to be the opposite and fight the evil neoliberals, i.e. some socialist. This is not even the first time people from that party do so to cover their past in the SED or Stasi or simply their non-socialist behaviour, because they would lose their fake social image otherwise and everybody knew about their two-facedness.

IMHO politics is not the best topic for posts that appear on planetkde, but if you do so, please do not just throw around some buzzwords/-phrases like "neoliberal" or "allows police to break into every house". Those topics are complex and only telling half the truth or (over)simplifying them is wrong.

You also failed to mention that while access via wikipedia.de is currently not possible, nothing was deleted and everything is still accessible via de.wikipedia.org and since most people use google to search for whatever they always get the de.wikipedia.org sites anyway. That does not mean I like what that socialist politican did or could do, but "rm -rf" is just polemic, which is what politicans are often accused of.

dipesh's picture

Well...

First it is not important who that unknown guy is or what his background is cause what matters is, that the law in place failed to work. Second I don't agree and do distance from your torture/prison/kill statements related to him cause it's not true. That the system did or does so, like btw also today US and germany, is unrelated to his role. So, please do take care here to don't personal attack ppl on such a level to make them responsible for the system they where or are living in without any prove. Maybe in that case we should even thank him for the demonstration how bad our system works this days and where it needs to be improved? Maybe it's some kind of real-life bugreport that needs to be fixed asap?

Re parties, left vs right wings, democrats vs republicans, this vs that; That is an oversimplification that does not work well. What counts are the results and that's why I explicit named it neoliberal development cause that's what we have since years and the ~700 billion Euro bailout is just the next direct visible step (or is there any doubt where those money is coming from and where it will go to?).

Your buzzwords/-phrases like "allows police to break into every house" sentence is interesting. Are you aware of the law I am talking about and the consequence? I really doubt so. btw, de.wikipedia.org is not hosted in germany, that's even written down in the front of the above linked wikipedia.de, and can't be deleted by the law@germany user else...

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