Would I tell you this? No, I'm fair and don't try to cheat you. Whoever tried Novell's Linux Desktop 9 will know that it has no default desktop, you have to choose either KDE or GNOME during installation and there is no indication what to prefer. Is the GNOME camp simply uninformed or do they have dishonorable intentions? I keep reading from them and hearing from them like in the "101 Things to Know about GNOME" talk at GUADEC that NLD's default desktop would be GNOME.
And a cookie to whom can give a link to a news/report about the proclaimed 1 million running GNOME desktops in China: I don't mean the initial declaration of intent (coincidentally dated inauguration day of that then new product) but something newer than 2003.
There is no default desktop o
There is no default desktop on the NLD - I've got several people running the NLD with KDE. You pick the Gnome or KDE radio button in the install, and it gives you that desktop. Easy.
No, I don't know anything about the 1 million desktops in China at all and I suspect we will never hear anything. I can certainly tell you that the NHS thing in Britain was rubbish. It was the NHS simply trying to look as if they were putting things out to tender while Microsoft's consultants worded things in such a way that no one else had a chance of meeting the requirements.
They still do let their mouths run away with themselves at times the Gnome guys, and that's bad because people start pushing things before they are really ready or before people have thought things through.
Oh, and do you know what all the graphical tools in the OES (Open Enterprise Server - Novell's flagship product) are written with and the desktop you see when you boot it up? One guess
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> They still do let their mou
> They still do let their mouths run away with themselves at times the Gnome guys, and that’s bad because people start pushing things before they are really ready or before people have thought things through.
Do you think that they are in parts the same who made Novell to ship OpenOffice.org 2.0 Beta (OpenDocument incompatible, OOo1 now offered via YOU) and Beagle Alpha (had to be disabled by default) with SUSE Pro 9.3?
Do you think that they are in
Do you think that they are in parts the same who made Novell to ship OpenOffice.org 2.0 Beta (OpenDocument incompatible, OOo1 now offered via YOU) and Beagle Alpha (had to be disabled by default) with SUSE Pro 9.3?
Not really. I think it should be noted that Novell/Suse uses Suse Linux Pro to effectively beta test software on people now. I was really referring to the fact that some people still seem to think they're going to go off and take over the world whilst painting over what position they're actually in. That doesn't do anyone any favours.
DistroWatch
If you read the note at the bottom of that page, you'll see that the list is automatically generated from DistroWatch. If you have a look at DistroWatch's Novell page, the 'default desktop' field contains both GNOME and KDE. No doubt this has something to do with it.
10x10
If my mind doesn't fool me I think I heard Jeff mention it also in his Project Topaz (10x10) talk.
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Right. He also has a strange self-deception of "major commercial distribution" like NDS being major and SUSE Pro as Mandriva being not.
New name for kdedevelopers.org
It should be renamed gnomewatch.org. That URL is much more appropriate since kdedevelopers.org has been reduced to people whining and moaning about any random comment or event that happens in the Gnome world.
Well let's see...
GNOME was founded in order to literally kill KDE, so I think there is at least some lingering feeling competition there, even though the main focus of GNOME has shifted away from killing KDE over time.
troll much?
Umm, I am looking at the last 8 topics here, and they are all basicly about development issues that are being addressed in KDE. One was a random musing and another was an opinion. If you think that these are all gnome bashing then you obviously need to look into some remedial reading courses at your local highschool.
what's this here "remedial" y
what's this here "remedial" you speak of, Yankee?